Put simply, UMD is not good enough, and is not only overly complicated, it works out to a lot more money spent to do the same damn thing that Acrobatics does. And it wasn't for lack of trying, or ganging up, or flanking, or whatever.
#Pf skyseeker style Pc
AGAIN, I couldn't lay a finger on the PC in question. Seriously dude, I ran the entire campaign from start to finish. In almost every instance in Giantslayer, Acrobatics worked. Just because your bonus is higher doesn't mean your chance of success is higher! If your UMD skill is 11 points lower than the wand DC (20, so +9) you likewise have a 50/50 shot of not taking the AoO. If your acrobatics skill is 11 points lower than their CMD (30, so +19, in the case of the smallest Huge giant) then you have a 50/50 shot at not taking the AoO. Nor does your CMD unless the giant is trying to trip you or something. Warriors tend to have terrible Charisma in the first place, and are far more likely to have a high Strength or Dexterity instead, so wouldn't it make more sense to go with that instead of trying to pull off something that requires you to buy a charged item and blow a standard action when you can just Acrobatics your way in past a monster's reach induced attacks of opportunity and just pound the bejeezus out of said giant?ĬMB doesn't help when you're trying to get past a giant's reach. Point is, UMD is no solution when your Charisma sucks and you don't have class access naturally, which most classes don't. Dexterity tends to kick in to help with Acrobatics, you know.
#Pf skyseeker style mod
I like to just dip a level in the class whose spell list has the Wand I want and not even mess around with UMD.Īvr wrote: BAB is not relevant to skills (unless you get owl style or versatile training, neither of which gets greater than maxing the skill), and almost none have a dex mod 10 points higher than their cha mod - the difference between the CMD of a stone giant and the DC of activating a wand. If you are worried about AC, just have a friendly Wizard craft some magic items for you. Also mithril armor and the Armor Expert character trait. To that end, a straight up Fighter works well, since you get to reduce the armor check penalty as you level up.
Much less complicated and less expensive overall than what you guys have been pushing. I find just using a character trait to grab Acrobatics as a class skill, then using it to get in close to monsters with reach works like a charm. I dunno, I wouldn't worry about reach etc.
The only one that does come to mind is a Paladin. Generally, the only people who CAN pull it off are those that have really high Charisma. Use Magic Device generally isn't useful until you are in the double digit levels, since the DC's are so very high you can't count on making the rolls until then.
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